Seiken Densetsu 3 getting an official localization and perhaps even higher resolution sprites would be amazing. Obviously they would have to fix the many bugs in the game of course, but a straight up official port would please me. I don't know enough about Romancing Saga to comment.I do not understand why they threw out the formula used by SD2(Secret of Mana) and SD3 on future games. It's like they reinvented the wheel and replaced treasure with random ingredients and reduced magic to glorified special moves. Each time they announce a new Mana game it's some radically different disaster (free to play mobile cash grab, RTS, single player linear adventure with resetting levels, dungeon crawler, etc). They have, however, announced a faithful remake of the original Seiken Densetsu (Final Fantasy Adventure NA or Mystic Quest in Europe) in Japan (as opposed to Sword of Mana which I think had as many downgrades as upgrades due to the shoehorning of said equipment ingredient system I don't like).
Yea they should release the whole secret of mana + evermore series on steam.They are trickling in crappy android ports to pc at a slow rate. And despite the fact mobile to pc ports take a lot of work and just never work well, lots of people are still buying them.Wish they'd realise that if they simply pop'd the old roms into an emulator and slap on some cards and achievements people would be much happier with the releases, plus they could afford to do a ton more, as all the emulators already exists, id be just a matter of customizing some open source code (guarantee no one would mind) or negotiating with the authors to get them licenced. Or just hire dotemu or another company which has already successfully done so for many titles.eg: Mega Man legacy collection is just 6 roms in an emulator with a few achievements and a challenge mode added and it got quite a bit more favorable reviews than this.Would certainly make a ton more sense for the undoubtedly upcoming FFVI release. As the android version is simply vastly inferior to the original in many people's eyes. Don't presume to speak for everyone. You are not the spokesperson for 'the fans.' I much better appreciate full graphical remakes like FFIV and FFV got to lazily plopping an emulator on Steam.
The ports are not perfect, but people like to home in on a singular issue and use it to act like they are junk or lazy. An emulator would be 100x more lazy.The bugs going on with this game are inexcusable and they had better address them soon. That is unacceptable. I actually don't have a problem with the UI except for the excessive scrolling required for the main command window, but it's still not that bad for me.The two things I dislike about FFVI are the absolutely horrendous battle menu system (FFV did it far better in my opinon, no contest, and I absolutely despise the stupid raising window instead of ATB bar 'innovation') and the character sprites. FFV overall I feel is beautiful but perhaps I just wasn't as attached to the original character sprites as I am to FFVI's.
That, or perhaps FFVI's really are on another level of horrible. Thankfully modding FFVI's sprites should be a lot less crazy since there are not a gazillion jobs to worry about. It would not surprise me if FFVI has less character sprites than a single character in FFV. I will be disappointed if FFVI's music does not loop though, but like I said I do think they should fix their bugs.Still I would take what we have here any day over a lazy emulated ROM. If you bothered to read I said 'in many peoples eyes'We'll let the review scores speak for themselves. The fact is the android ports always get vastly inferior reviews to the original snes versions, and well pretty well every other version ever released.
They are crappy ports and your love for the ugly misaligned graphics won't change that.Yea the 3d remakes are obviously a different topic entirely, I was referring to just snes releases. I think they should have the 3d and PSP versions of ffiv on here, as they are both great in their own ways. Originally posted by:I played Seiken Densetsu 3 few days ago for the first time in my life and it's nothing special. I mean combat, you just spam attack (or not, since rest of the party can kill mobs for you), there's no strategy, any difficulty in battles, except bosses when you just have to use healing items. How far did you play? There is the 'delay' like in Secret of Mana, it's just reflected by character animation and not a bar. Spamming attacks isn't as effective as dodging attacks during that delay.
Learning not to trigger enemy counterattacks (it's dumb they react to techs though) and making use of elemental weaknesses helps too. There most definitely can be strategy.It's not the hardest game out there but it's definitely one of my favorites. Originally posted by:i'm a old player of seiken densetsu series, please, make seiken densetsu 3 ans 2 on steam, Illusion of gaia too and terranigma too, please:3Seiken Densetsu 3 was translated to English a while ago, just play those games on an SNES emulator. No need to flood Steam with copies of games you can already play for free. 'Flood Steam?'
If you don't like a game, ignore it. This kind of attitude is what results in total nonsense like removing older games from stores, especially when you outright advocate piracy as an alternative. I'd love to see a modern port of SD3 and other games.
Angela, Duran, and Riesz fighting Land Umber, the Earth BenevodonTrials of Mana has similar gameplay to its predecessor,. Like many other role-playing games of the, the game displays a, in which the three navigate the terrain and fight off hostile creatures. Control may be passed between each of the characters at any time; the companions not currently selected are controlled. The game may be played simultaneously by two players, as opposed to the three of Secret of Mana. There are six possible player characters. At the beginning of the game, the player chooses which three of them will be playable and which one they will start with; the other two playable characters will join the party when met. The remaining three characters act as (NPCs) when encountered.Each character can use one type of weapon, in addition to magical spells.
The effectiveness of spells depends on the magical ability of the character and the element of the spell in relation to the enemy. When in battle mode, attacking monsters fills a gauge that allows the player to use character-specific special attacks. Upon collecting enough in battle, each character can increase in level to gain improved such as strength and evasion. Options such as changing equipment, casting, or checking status are performed by cycling through the game's Ring Commands—a circular menu which hovers over the controlled party member. The game is paused whenever the Ring Command menu is activated.
Within the Ring, the player has nine slots for storing items; additional items can be placed into item storage, which is inaccessible in combat.is coordinated by the player, as a choice is given as to which statistic to raise by a point at every level up. A ' system is also present. Once a character reaches level 18, the player can visit one of several Mana Stones located throughout the game and choose to upgrade them to one of two classes for each character—either a class to 'Light' or a class aligned to 'Dark'—which provides a different set of skills and different improvements to character statistics. A second class change may be optionally performed at level 38, again split between a light and a dark choice, if the player has obtained a required rare item for the target class. The class changes do not affect the plot of the game, only gameplay.Trials of Mana also employs a calendar function into its gameplay.
A week cycles much more quickly than an actual one, with a day passing in a matter of minutes. Each day of the week is represented by a different. On that spirit's day, magic of that element will be slightly stronger. An in-game day is also divided into day and night.
Certain events only happen during certain times of day, such as a nighttime-only black market selling particularly rare items. Enemies encountered in the field also change during certain time periods, and some may be sleeping if the characters approach them at night. In addition, the character Kevin transforms into a werewolf when he fights at night, greatly increasing his attack power. Using an inn's services allows the player to 'skip' the game's clock to that day's evening, or the following morning. Plot Setting The story takes place in a fictional world where Mana represents an ethereal, but finite, energy source. Some time in the past, the Mana Goddess created the game's world by forging the powerful Sword of Mana and defeating eight monsters of destruction, the Benevodons—'God Beasts' in earlier translations—with it, sealing them within eight Mana Stones, before turning herself into the Mana Tree and falling asleep. The game is set at a time when Mana starts to fade and peace has ended, as several people plot to unleash the Benevodons from the stones so as to gain ultimate power.
The game is not a direct sequel to the events in Secret of Mana; according to series creator in 2006, the Mana games do not take place in exactly the same world, and characters or elements who appear in different games are best considered alternate versions of each other. Instead, the connections between each title are more abstract than story-based. Despite this statement, the 2007 game is a direct prequel to Trials of Mana, taking place 19 years before the latter's story. Characters The characters (and their individual stories) are grouped into three main sub-plots. Angela and Duran oppose the Dragon Lord, Hawkeye and Riesz oppose the Dark Majesty, Kevin and Charlotte oppose the Masked Mage. The main storyline is determined by the first character chosen, though there is significantly more character interaction and dialogue if the other member of the pair is also in the party.Angela is the princess of the ice-covered Magic Kingdom of Altena.
Her mother uses her magic to keep the citadel in Altena in a perpetual Spring, but the spell weakens as Mana starts to fade. To power the spell, she and her assistant the Crimson Wizard decide to invade other nations to claim their Mana Stones, though the spell to use the Stone is fatal to the caster. When the Queen tries to force Angela to use it, she flees from Altena. Her paired character is Duran, an orphaned swordsman of Valsena, Kingdom of the Plains. His father Loki was lost in battle with the Dragon Emperor.
One night, Duran is on guard duty at the castle of Valsena when the Crimson Wizard attacks the castle. Duran is left for dead after confronting him, and after recovering he vows to become the best swordsman in the world and to exact his revenge upon the Crimson Wizard.Hawkeye is a member of a guild of noble thieves based in the desert Sand Fortress of Nevarl. The guild's leader, Lord Flamekhan, suddenly and uncharacteristically declares Nevarl to be a kingdom.
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Hawkeye decides to confront Flamekhan about it, only to discover he is being controlled by the witch Isabella. Isabella kills Eagle, Flamekhan's son and Hawkeye's friend, framing Hawkeye for his death and forcing him to flee. His paired character is Riesz, the princess of the mountainous Wind Kingdom of Laurent and captain of its army. Two mysterious ninjas from Nevarl trick her younger brother Elliott into turning off Laurent's protective winds and kidnap him. With the winds gone, Nevarl attacks Laurent with a cloud of sleep powder and kills its king.
Devastated, Riesz makes her escape.Kevin is the prince of Ferolia. He is the son of the Beast King, who is sick of the treatment of his people by 'normal' humans. His desired revenge is made possible by the appearance of Goremand. He shows the king his abilities by forcing Kevin to awaken his werewolf abilities by killing Kevin's best friend.
When Kevin confronts the Beast King on this act and the King's plans to invade the human Holy City Wendel, Kevin is thrown out of the kingdom and swears revenge. His paired character is Charlotte, the half-elf granddaughter of the Priest of Light in Wendel. An orphan, she is looked after by a fellow cleric, Heath. Feeling an evil influence in nearby Jadd, the Priest of Light sends Heath to investigate, but Charlotte follows to witness Goremand abduct Heath.
She decides to journey to save him. Story The story begins in a different place for each playable character.
With the exception of Charlotte, the main character is soon told (or otherwise decides) to seek the advice of the Priest of Light in the Holy City Wendel. They arrive at the city of Jadd soon after the Beastmen have invaded. Due to the Beastmen's werewolf powers, they are able to make an escape by night. The main character—now including Charlotte—on the way to Wendel stays overnight in Astoria where they are woken by a bright light. Following it, it reveals itself to be a from the Sanctuary of Mana, exhausted by her journey. Out of desperation, the Faerie chooses the main character to be her host, and tells them to get to Wendel.
There, while they explain their grievances to the Priest of Light, the Faerie interrupts and explains that the Mana Tree is dying and that the Sanctuary is in danger. The Priest explains that if the Tree dies, the Benevodons will reawaken and destroy the world. He goes on to explain further that, because the Faerie has chosen the main character as its host, they must travel to the Sanctuary to draw the Sword of Mana from the foot of the Mana Tree. They can then restore peace to the world, and have their wishes granted by the Mana Goddess if the sword is drawn before the Tree dies.
A great deal of power is needed to open the gate to the Sanctuary. The Faerie does not have the strength to do it, and the ancient spell which would do so by unlocking the power in the Mana Stones also takes the caster's life. The Stones' guarding elemental spirits, however, will to be able to open the gate if their powers are combined.After journeying across the world to get the spirits, meeting the other two members of the party, thwarting the invasion attempts of Nevarl and Altena, discovering the powers of the Fire and Water Mana Stones, and learning the disappearance of the Mana Stone of Darkness along the way, the main character tries to open the gate to the Sanctuary of Mana with the spirits' assistance. The first attempt fails, but the second succeeds; the Faerie realizes that it was opened because someone else released the power from all the Mana Stones. The characters travel into the Sanctuary and the main character claims the Mana Sword.
It is then discovered that the main character's adversaries—the Crimson Wizard and the Darkshine Knight for Angela and Duran; Malocchio and Isabella for Riesz and Hawkeye; or Goremand and a mind-controlled Heath, for Kevin and Charlotte—have defeated the other two sets of primary enemies. The remaining adversaries capture the Faerie and will only release her in exchange for the Mana Sword. The trade is made, and once the enemy receives the Sword, the Mana Stones shatter and the Benevodons are released.The characters must then defeat the Benevodons before they can gather and destroy the world. However, after doing this they realize killing the Benevodons has given more power to their main enemy, who their personal enemies were working for—the Dragon Lord for Duran and Angela, the Dark Majesty for Hawkeye and Riesz, and the Masked Mage for Kevin and Charlotte. The already powerful villain absorbs the power of the Sword of Mana and the Benevodons in order to become a god, but is halted by the Mana Goddess blocking some of its power. After defeating the villain's minions, the characters go and defeat their main enemy, but are unable to stop him from destroying the Mana Tree and eliminating all Mana from the world.
The Faerie then fuses with what is left of the Mana Tree; she will be reborn as the Mana Goddess in a thousand years, but until then Mana will not exist in the world. As the game ends, the characters go back to their homelands. Development. Game director in 2007Seiken Densetsu 3 was designed by series creator Koichi Ishii.
The game was directed by and produced by Tetsuhisa Tsuruzono. Tanaka had previously worked on several titles for Square, including as a designer on the first three titles. Manga and anime artist was responsible for the character concept artwork, based on designs by Ishii. Yūki's artwork for the game can be found in the Nobuteru Yuki Seiken Densetsu Illustration Book.During the game's development and after its release in Japan on September 30, 1995, Seiken Densetsu 3 became known abroad as Secret of Mana 2, though a preview in in August 1995 called it by its correct name, despite still stating it to be a sequel to Secret of Mana. The preview noted the six characters, calendar system, and a game world 'three to four times' the size of the previous game, though it also reported that the game would be playable by three players, not two. Square stated in a 1995 issue of its North American newsletter that they planned to release the game during the second half of the year. A second preview in Next Generation in February 1996, calling the game Secret of Mana 2, stated that the game's North American release had been canceled by Square's American branch due to programming bugs that they deemed impossible to fix in a timely manner.Before 2019, Seiken Densetsu 3 was not released outside Japan.
Stated in 2011 that localizing the game for North America or Europe 'would have cost a fortune', and that the rise of the competing and consoles diminished the benefits of spending so much on a (SNES) game., a few months after Seiken Densetsu 3 was released in Japan, said that the probability of a North American release for the game was low due to issues of 'a technical nature' and that it would have been far too costly to produce at the time. This is further supported by Brian Fehdrau, lead programmer for Square's contemporary game, who mentioned that Seiken Densetsu 3 had some, hindering its likelihood of being certified for release by Nintendo of America without extensive work.There was an apparent misconception among video game fans that the SNES title was released in lieu of an English language version of Seiken Densetsu 3 in 1995. Secret of Evermore was developed by a new team at Square's office in called Square Soft.
According to Fehdrau, no one who worked on the Evermore project would have been involved in a translation of Seiken Densetsu 3; the Redmond team was specifically hired to create Evermore. In 2000, a project for Seiken Densetsu 3 led by Neill Corlett was successfully completed and made available on the internet as an, which could be applied to of the game when played with an or played on a Super NES console with a development kit or backup device.
A port for the was released with ports of Final Fantasy Adventure and Secret of Mana as part of the Seiken Densetsu Collection on June 1, 2017 in Japan. The collection was released on June 11, 2019 in North America as Collection of Mana with Seiken Densetsu 3 titled Trials of Mana.
That same day, a remake of the game under that title was announced for worldwide release for the, Nintendo Switch, and computers in early 2020.